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July 03, 2012 09:00:40pm |
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Jerry on pedal steel |
I know Jerry played pedal steel in the studio and with NRPS live, but when did he play it live with the Dead?
All I can think of is 4/14/72's Looks Like Rain.
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Headstrung |
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July 04, 2012 08:02:59am |
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Re: Jerry on pedal steel |
Ironically enough he did this several times during the Summer of 1987 while the Dead backed Dylan on stage including July 4, 1987. We talked about how special Oxford was to people in attendance yesterday well this experience July 4, 1987 was hell. Listening to it twenty five years later the band is tight but the set list is practically straight off In The Dark. So in a short summary; war zone with fireworks, extremely hot and humid, lots of drunk non Dead Heads in attendance, huge traffic back ups, gate crashers, security taking water away at the gates and if that wasn't enough one short set of the hit parade. That night when we all got back to Connecticut and tapped a keg for the debriefing it was unanimously voted as SHIT!
Rochester two days earlier had been great, oh well another time when the Dead choked under the big lights. For what its worth here is the link. Jerry on steel was the high light for me.
http://archive.org/details/gd1987-07-04.sbd.miller.101650.flac16 This post was modified by Headstrung on 2012-07-04 15:02:59
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July 03, 2012 09:38:46pm |
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Re: Jerry on pedal steel |
There is a list of all pedal steel shows in the forum, but I can't seem to locate it at the moment. I'll post it when it is found.
But try Spring and Summer 69, especially June.
I believe 69-04-26 is the starting point with Silver Threads and Golden Needles.
Dire Wolf:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-06-27.sbd.samaritano.20547.sbeok.shnfCheck-out the Dylan and the Dead shows as well since Jerry brought it along for: I'll Be Your Baby Tonight and Tomorrow is a Long Time.
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July 05, 2012 08:55:32pm |
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Re: Jerry on pedal steel |
Hey, buddy!
Anyway, they were just talking about Jerry pulling out the Pedal Steel on the Dylan and the Dead rehearsals and subsequent tour, and post coma. There seemed to be a desire to reinvigorate on Jerry's part. He took a joy in experimenting with songs and with Bob's huge catalogue.
The problem with Bob, was that he apparently got a bit of stage fright. The Dead had so much spontaneity written into their DNA, and Dylan simply couldn't handle that dynamic. As a result, the rehearsals were far more interesting. There was more pedal steel, more song choices, and more fun to them.
Grab them if you can find them. The complaints attributed to the tour were that they weren't what they could be. I believe that this is true. It really turned out to be a Dylan show with the Dead as a backing band. Not what it should have been.
The opinions expressed above are accurate, but not my own, simply regurgitated from the brilliant minds of David Gans and Gary Lambert
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veblen |
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July 06, 2012 12:51:28am |
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Re: Jerry on pedal steel |
Thanks for waking me up, staggerleib. I went to look for that old pedal steel post and got lost in reading 4-or-5 years of my posts and associated threads. It's an interesting way to go down memory lane, to say the very least. "four score and seven dark stars ago this forum was founded..."
Regarding Dylan and the Dead: My first piece of advice to anyone interested is to pass on the commercial release and download the shows, along with the rehearsals (as mentioned).
If you just listen to the album you will believe it was one of the worst ideas ever to go on tour.
Bad song selection and bad production.
I love the rehearsal tapes, they have that Basement Tape feel. Everyone seems to be having a good time. They should be released as Basement Tapes 87. Plus, they have Jerry playing pedal on an number of songs.
It's nice to see that they are on archive:
http://archive.org/details/gd1987-06-01.sbd-rehearsals.fraser.97489.shnfI am not sure if it wasn't that Dylan couldn't handle it as much as he if wanted to, whether it was due to style, ego, or something else. They were his tunes, so I imagine that he was going to be in control and set the pace for the shows.
Anyway, as time passes I come to like the combo more-and-more, probably because I dropped many of my expectations and came to see them as one of Dylan's better backup bands. It also gives me a reason to listen to 87 which I don't do much of much of.
I do keep one of the shows in rotation, I think it's from Eugene.
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