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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 23, 2012 09:57:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

Well, that's nice. Here's a link to this year's 25 Chosen Ones. I wish there was also a link to the recordings themselves, but there doesn't seem to be. I'd love to hear the slave interviews. (And who could resist an 1888 Twinkle Twinkle Little Star?)

http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/2012/12-107.html

I poked around on the LC's site and found this link to a bunch of other recording archives. IA is on it, so maybe some others will actually include music you can hear:

http://www.loc.gov/rr/record/nrpb/nrpb-OTHERARCHIVES.html

Honestly, the idea of 25 Important Recordings to enter each year into a National Registry seems a bit quaint in the online era. And it's funny that Wagner's Ring Cycle counts as one entry, and so does Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. But it's nice to have 5/8/77 in the company of "Bei Mir Bist du Schoen" by the Andrews Sisters. I guess.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 23, 2012 10:41:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

I love some of the selections on the list, and particularly love that Mothership Connection is followed by Barton Hall:

2011 National Recording Registry (Listing in Chronological Order)

1.Edison Talking Doll cylinder (1888)
2."Come Down Ma Evenin’ Star," Lillian Russell (1912)
3."Ten Cents a Dance," Ruth Etting (1930)
4."Voices from the Days of Slavery," Various speakers (1932-1941 interviews; 2002 compilation)
5."I Want to Be a Cowboy's Sweetheart," Patsy Montana (1935)
6."Fascinating Rhythm," Sol Hoopii and his Novelty Five (1938)
7."Artistry in Rhythm," Stan Kenton & and his Orchestra (1943)
8.Debut performance with the New York Philharmonic, Leonard Bernstein (Nov. 14, 1943)
9.International Sweethearts of Rhythm: Hottest Women’s Band of the 1940s (1944-1946)
10."The Indians for Indians Hour" (March 25, 1947)
11."Hula Medley," Gabby Pahinui (1947)
12."I Can Hear It Now," Fred W. Friendly and Edward R. Murrow (1948)
13."Let’s Go Out to the Programs," The Dixie Hummingbirds (1953)
14."Also Sprach Zarathustra," Fritz Reiner and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra (1954, 1958)
15."Bo Diddley" and "I’m a Man," Bo Diddley (1955)
16."Green Onions," Booker T. & the M.G.’s (1962)
17."Forever Changes," Love (1967)
18."The Continental Harmony: Music of William Billings," Gregg Smith Singers (1969)
19."A Charlie Brown Christmas," Vince Guaraldi Trio (1970)
20."Coat of Many Colors," Dolly Parton (1971)
21."Mothership Connection," Parliament (1975)
22.Barton Hall concert by the Grateful Dead (May 8, 1977)
23."I Feel Love," Donna Summer (1977)
24."Rapper's Delight," Sugarhill Gang (1979)
25."Purple Rain," Prince and the Revolution (1984)

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: May 23, 2012 06:07:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

Forever Changes by Love? Huh? Did I miss something in my drug-addled haze?

At least they're next to Donna Summer.

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Poster: high flow Date: May 23, 2012 11:57:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

Green Onions!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-7QSMyz5rg

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Poster: craven714 Date: May 24, 2012 06:08:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

this is for diamond head. sry high flow, this 'log in' or
'join us' BS is in charge. You cant respond to whom you want to all the time it seems. Anyway< Green Onions? RIP Donald Duck. Your taste remains impeccable.

To DH: I was thinking the same. Of ANYTHING that came out
in 67??? 1967 was a beautiful year for many things, esp
music. Just sayin.

And yes, you did miss something in your drug addled haze.
But only you know (dont know) what that is...:)

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: May 24, 2012 09:21:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there. :)

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Poster: craven714 Date: May 24, 2012 10:23:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

hell, I can hardly remember yesterday :0
guess I wasnt really there...

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: May 24, 2012 11:18:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

A theory worthy of Descartes.

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Poster: craven714 Date: May 24, 2012 12:55:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

"I think, therefore I am...............I think."

No wait, that's somebody else I'm thinking of.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 23, 2012 11:28:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

I guess the LC doesn’t need links after all when there’s YouTube.

The first is the oldest recording of a woman’s voice in existence. Not exactly a clean SBD, but amazing to hear!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3yygc0UxHU

Numbers 2 and 3 (1912 and 1930):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UXN2UM_cwo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpU-mcgBJxE

Cowboy's yodelin' sweetheart, 1935:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlcTVp-xrRw

Found these slave recordings (with added drums) that may be part of the entry. These are people who could have known people who knew the voice of Thomas Jefferson ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VTFkyDrH3M

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: May 23, 2012 11:41:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

Purple Rain? When Doves Cry would have been the better choice from that soundtrack, imo.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 23, 2012 08:00:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

I think what they've chosen IS the soundtrack. The whole recording. So you have a soundtrack (Prince), a whole show (5/8), a 15-second snippet of voice (Edison 1888 recording), Green Onions ... ditto other years. Wagner's Ring Cycle next to a single Andrews Sisters tune next to Neil Armstrong speaking from the moon next to Abbott and Costello doing Who's on First next to the first time Fibber McGee's closet opens in Fibber McGee and Molly.

It's a strange but fascinating collection, almost Fahrenheit 451-ish. Looking at it, I gather it's done to select historically significant bits of audio, preserve them, and give them a kind of Official Mark of Importance for historical purposes.

Which explains why they picked the Ruth Etting 10 Cents a Dance and not Shine on Harvest Moon, which holds up so much better ... although it doesn't have those interesting lines about dancing with "pansies." :-) Guess they're holding out to unearth a 1908 recording of the original Nora Bayes Shine on Harvest Moon, which would be the really significant one ...

Here's the whole surreal Fahrenheit 451 I Ching list in its entirety to date:

http://www.loc.gov/rr/record/nrpb/registry/NRRcreditsbyartist.pdf

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Poster: fenario80 Date: May 23, 2012 08:43:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

Um ... is it just me, or why can't I find Barton Hall or the Grateful Dead on that list?

never mind - I found it

This post was modified by fenario80 on 2012-05-24 03:43:02

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: May 24, 2012 06:27:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

So are you suggesting that Morris Day and Time have received the Official Mark of Importance for Historic Purposes?

Cool.

I could not find Purple Rain or Prince on the list you linked. Its not listed as that symbol he went by is it? I don't think i have the ability to search for that using command F.

should not type before caffeine...

This post was modified by elbow1126 on 2012-05-24 13:27:31

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 24, 2012 03:50:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

I think you're right. It's on this one (listed by title), http://www.loc.gov/rr/record/nrpb/registry/NRRcreditsbytitle.pdf , but not on the other (listed by artist). Whoops, guess they gave the list to an intern to type it in and s/he was busy checking FB on another screen or something.

Btw I noticed there are three different versions of Girl from Ipanema. That must make it the LC's candidate for most important song of all time.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: May 24, 2012 05:10:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

Well Girl from Ipanema is an important song, however it is an outrage that they have not included this version (track 6)

http://archive.org/details/gd1975-02-28.sbd.smith.93779.sbeok.flac16

btw this is my favorite "rehearsal" release.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 24, 2012 06:57:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

Absolutely. An outrage. It's clear evidence of the historical importance and vast influence of Girl from Ipanema. I say we lobby for inclusion.

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Poster: craven714 Date: May 24, 2012 05:55:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

This is me giving you the bird:
WAAAAAAAA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZZHK73iwTk&;feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLC87649E9C0334CB2

"White people...you're too uptight"
Dammit L. You make me laugh every time.

Somebody get me a mirror. Jerome?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 23, 2012 12:07:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

Agreed. Love this version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7jK-p3Tk3A&;feature=related

First time I heard another artist cover it live was Patti Smith on her "comeback" tour.

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Poster: craven714 Date: May 23, 2012 01:03:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

Nice one. But I prefer this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp8yxJpJhSo
(start at 4 minute mark, unless you like nood-ling)

I bet even has ol' Mandos seal of approval...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 23, 2012 07:42:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

Very cool. Thanks.

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Poster: craven714 Date: May 24, 2012 06:02:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Barton Hall inthe Library of Congress

no....thank you, and bus for bringing good info to the
board again. Love it :)

Good luck to you and your many recent endeavors BD.

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