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Poster:	unclejohn52	Date:	May 28, 2011 04:18:32pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: More Avalon Questions - a query for our experts

Strange business here - I wrote the following comments based on what I heard on the soundboard version - but then went back to check other versions. They do not match! Huh? I think this soundboard is from a different performance!

SBD: http://www.archive.org/details/gd1968-08-22.sbd.koucky.gmb.92733.sbeok.flac16

This is certainly a unique treatment I agree - a very creative and energetic jam. Although I was unable to count the 11/4 time you mention ( I kept getting even counts) I did immediately hear a unique mix of jams. The one that jumped out early was that it was based on the Mountain Jam (first there is a mountain...) with an unusual closer - the set list calls it And We Bid You Good Night Jam - but I would call it the ending of GDTRFB, very up tempo. Cool stuff, and great drumming throughout.

When I listen to the AUD version - http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-08-22.sbd.cotsman.14915.sbeok.shnf - I can clearly hear the 11/8 Jim mentions. Totally different jam.

Can anyone solve this mystery?

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Poster:	light into ashes	Date:	May 28, 2011 05:50:24pm
Forum:	GratefulDead	Subject:	Re: More Avalon Questions - a query for our experts

Actually, 8/22/68 has long been plagued with misdated tapes. I was fooled by my own tape for a long time til I did some comparative listening and realized it was a fake...

Anyway, the cotsman version is the real 8/22 Alligator.
The koucky version has the Alligator from 8/21 (mixed into mono, and with the drums edited out).
The jools version has just the 8/22 Alligator without the rest of the show.