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Incornsyucopia |
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April 23, 2011 09:05:11am |
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GratefulDead
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Re: Evolution of PITB: late 1971, Keith Godchaux joins |
On further listening to some early Brent PITB's I'd agree with you. They do end up in D Dorian, but as opposed to with Keith when it was a pretty much immediate shift once they hit the jam section, with Brent they work their way into it: toying with with the intro riff in D Mixo., as you say, and then slowly change into D Dorian. On the first version with Brent (
http://www.archive.org/details/gd79-05-03.glassberg.vernon.18870.sbeok.shnf) it's actually quite quick: they start the jam at 2:41 and the first F major (the minor 3rd of D) I hear is played by Jerry at 3:00. Perhaps, then, "retirement" was far too strong a word choice; they just shifted it a little and opted for a more subtle transition. I'm going to listen to some later PITBs to see how the relation of these modalities develops. Any further thoughts on this?
"The change in how the jam starts is very notable. Wouldn't you say that instead of retiring the dorian jam, it is just shifted until after the major mode jam, and that this initial section in the post-keith era is based on the intro riff? In other words, the structure in the Brent era is that after the main ten riff, they improvise on the very beginning major mode figure, then shift into the minor?"
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