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micah6vs8 |
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August 04, 2010 02:02:06pm |
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Visions of Johanna |
rh's ' email ' and RZ's quote stirred this song up .
This VOJ is the last time that GD transfixed me .
PL released this cut on , Fallout From The Phil Zone .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKhM-Ed8R8k&;feature=related
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turnphilup |
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August 05, 2010 05:25:52am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
This was the type of thing I would have loved to have seen on tour in 1990 after Brent's death. It could have given them some time to work Vince(or someone) in and maybe, just maybe, Jerry would have rested up and stayed clean for good or longer then 5 more years. 1970, 1980, and then the 1990 acoustic tours! Wouldn't it have been great to be comparing each of these years shows now? Nice to think about what have could been. Miss you Jerome.
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Dudley Dead |
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August 04, 2010 04:09:21pm |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
I have said it before , but you can tell he really MEANS it , even with the lyrical flubs . What a powerful, real, version of this great song . To see it , is extra special . Thanks .
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snori |
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August 04, 2010 04:52:07pm |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
It always amazes me that he took on this wonderful song at a time when he was finding it harder to remember lyrics. I know they had teleprompters, but it is ambitious. Just having read the 'GD or JGB' thread below it seems to me this would have worked equally well with either. Did JGB ever play it ?
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micah6vs8 |
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August 04, 2010 05:19:06pm |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
According to handy dandy Garcia Base , that would be a no snori .
Times GD played ,
3 - 19 - 86
4 - 22 - 86
2 - 21 - 95
2 - 24 - 95
3 - 18 - 95
3 - 30 - 95
4 - 7 - 95
7 - 8 - 95
Hmm . All in '86 or '95 .
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Dudley Dead |
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August 05, 2010 08:07:09am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
You may be on to something here . In times of grave distress, he reached for this song . When Dylan wrote this song, and was playing it live , he was heading for a cliff . As much attention as the electric sets get from 66, the acoustic sets may even be more powerful, and scary . He sounds like a man who wants death to annihilate him, ( listen to those 'Tambourine Man's from that tour!). And had he not had the "motorcycle accident" , who knows .
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shakeitupnow |
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August 05, 2010 08:47:26am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
I didn't know it was revived in '95. I saw it in '86 and it was profound Thank you for pointing these performances out. I've got me some listening to do. That song never fails to give me CHILLS.
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micah6vs8 |
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August 05, 2010 09:17:39am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
What did you think of Furthur @ the Gathering ?
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shakeitupnow |
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August 05, 2010 09:26:33am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
I thought they put on a great show -- especially considering how amazing all the other bands were that day,
Though, I wish Phil and Bob would let John would sing the Jerry tunes. When John was taking his turn with The Wheel and Jeff and Sunshine were singing along, it really just felt so right.
And of course, the full-on Terrapin encore was delicious.
You were there too, right?
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shakeitupnow |
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August 05, 2010 09:53:42am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
I agree - excellent song choices -- all Jerry!
We were stage right about halfway back to the soundboard. It wasn't crowded until Furthur came on, but then it got to be a bit much (though there was no way were gonna move to a less crowded spot).
It was the first time I'd gone to the Gathering of the Vibes (never been a fan of the name...) and it was a much nicer scene than I expected.
I just hope next summer finds Furthur continuing to play smaller venues..
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ringolevio |
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August 05, 2010 02:00:01pm |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
Insane jealousy here ... we saw the signs for "Vibes Camping" from the highway and we tried not to get too grumpy.
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ringolevio |
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August 05, 2010 06:27:01pm |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
I don't see any reason not to be there except that things are touch and go with my folks, and November is too far off to predict.
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Jim F |
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August 05, 2010 03:16:37am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
I don't care what anybody says, the end all be all version of Visions of Johanna is the 16 minute studio version on the bonus disc from the Garcia "All Good Things" box set. Hell it's even better than any version Dylan ever did.
Last time I saw Dylan (Oct 2007) I wished and hoped I'd get to hear one, but I figured it would never happen. That song has always been very special to me and I would have paid the full ticket price just to have him come out, play Visions, then leave the stage. Halfway through the show, he played it. Sure he sounded like the cookie monster, but it was still one of the most moving concert experiences of my life.
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Dudley Dead |
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August 05, 2010 07:55:03am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
"Visions", has long been my favorite Dylan song, and , like you, it is special to me . I got to hear Dylan do it live once in 89... and wished I hadn't ...
He just slaughtered it . No feeling at all . Be careful what you wish for ...
The only versions that might edge Jerry out, and just barely, are Dylan's own from 66, which is really saying something !
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light into ashes |
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August 05, 2010 09:51:41am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
Y'know, I don't have that All Good Things bonus disc, have never heard it....sigh!
It's hard for me to imagine anything being better than Dylan's '66 acoustic versions.
But, my favorite later-era Dylan version (that I've heard so far) was from 6/24/96 Luxembourg....mind-blowing.
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micah6vs8 |
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August 05, 2010 02:47:18pm |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
I need to hear that Jim .
I'll be by after dinner . Let's say 7:30ish .
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Jim F |
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August 06, 2010 02:57:48am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
Aw man, you guys are really missing out on that bonus disc. The Visions is just one of 2 major highlights. The track before Visions is a really, really intense instrumental, at the end of which Jerry says something to the effect of, "yeah...hell yeah, man! Talk about some modrine(?) shit." I have no idea what that word is or what it means. I just call it the "Modrine Jam." It's 'officially" listed as "T.L.E.O. Jam," but it sounds different, more unique than just a jam on TLEO.
Then there is the Visions...I wish I knew more about it in terms of date and who plays on it and such. Based on the dates listed on it (1974, 1976, 1982), it is possibly studio outtakes from the Compliments, Reflections, or Run for the Roses sessions. Hard to tell. Jerry still sounds pretty "young." I would probably go with 76.
It starts out with a nice traditional piano, thoughtful drumming, and a sweet sounding clean tone by Garcia. Jerry sings the verses so sweetly and with much emotion. After the verses there is a solid 6+ minutes of alternating leads between piano and guitar, which just fades out around the 16 minute mark. The piano is especially brilliant, I wish I knew who it was. Keith?
For anyone who hasn't heard it, I would fully welcome any and all to come over at any time and make me play it for you. I'm really, really tempted to post a link to an MP3 of it. I mean to the best of my knowledge it IS an "out of print" bonus disc, it's not really anything you can just go out and buy officially. But I don't want to violate any rules. Perhaps if you REALLY wanna hear it, email me and we can, um, "work out some plans for you to come over and listen to it..."
jfeeherty@hotmail.com
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light into ashes |
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August 06, 2010 09:59:59am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
The amount of Dead music that's been released only on unavailable bonus discs is absurd... It's kind of like the old custom some bands had of releasing extra tracks on Japan-only LPs, just so they'd be rare...
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Jim F |
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August 07, 2010 04:24:09am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
Ugh, I know, very frustrating...
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rastamon |
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August 07, 2010 07:28:16am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
Out of circulation bonus disc's from various GD releases could be released as the "Grateful Dead Bonus Disc Collection" I'd buy it.
I poked around Piratebay and had to run a malware app just to shake off the flea's from looking :(
I'll just stick to the somewhat legal torrents like bt.etree, dimeadozen, shnflac
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buscameby |
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August 05, 2010 10:46:07am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
Well I bet none of you actually thought you heard the song and Johanna appeared on stage at the Greeks in 86'. She was a 6ft blonde with hair to her knees and she glimmered in the sunlight why she twirled like the woman in the GD movie.
That was one of those "weird" experiences I had after getting dozed by the strawberries that were being passed around by what we thought were staff.
It was the most vivid hallucination I ever had. When I came down the next day the closest song to Visions was Desolation which I do remember hearing. His nickname was sure in effect that day!
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lobster12 |
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August 05, 2010 11:42:54am |
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Re: Visions of Johanna |
For some reason I prefer the 2 versions from 86 over the 95's but I really like the placement of the '95 visions in the second set. Especially coming out of space a few times.
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