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snori |
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April 28, 2010 07:52:03am |
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Re: Attn. WT Cream Request |
If you want examples of studio and live material then 'Wheels of Fire' covers both. Released as a double album, one was studio (including 'White Room), the other Live (from one or both of the Fillmores).
If it's a DVD you're after I'd go for the 'Farewell' concert from 1968.
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William Tell |
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April 28, 2010 12:44:36pm |
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Re: Attn. WT Cream Request |
BTW, Winterland figures in the live too, I recall...will check. Defn the "west fillmore".
Ah ha--winterland is BIG, and not even the "real FWest" (?)...here's wiki:
"Note 4: It is a common misconception that Cream played at the Fillmore West. They never did. That venue was originally the Carousel Ballroom and was rechristened as the Fillmore West in June/July 1968 and Cream didn't play in San Francisco in that period or at that venue thereafter. In February and March 1968 Cream did a long run of concerts at Winterland and at the old Fillmore Auditorium. It was this Fillmore venue (which still exists) at which Cream played and not the later Fillmore West (which no longer survives). Live at the Fillmore means just that (refering to "Toad")."
This post was modified by William Tell on 2010-04-28 19:44:36
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snori |
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April 28, 2010 02:33:56pm |
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Re: Attn. WT Cream Request |
Thanks for the detail WT. I vaguely knew there was something askew about that live disc, but couldn't remember what.
I've been meaning to ask, as someone who loved both at the time, how do you feel about the Jimi Hendrix Experience ? There was a bit of (friendly) rivalry between the fans, but not (it seemed to me) between the bands. I remember 'God' being given an award for best guitarist in the cosmos or somesuch, and he simply said 'this should have gone to Jimi'.
Over time, and now some material is sneaking out (curse you Hendrix 'family') I def lean more towards the Experience.
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Dudley Dead |
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April 28, 2010 10:04:07pm |
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Re: Attn. WT Cream Request |
I love both of them, if it was thumbs up or down, Cream would win as a band, but friends who saw both , seem to feel that Redding , and Mitchell were pretty amazeing also. I enjoy MM's drumming, he seems to be comming from the same "sons of Elvin Jones " school as Ginger Baker ( this is meant as big ass complement ). Hendrix so dominated that group ( his group ..oh yeah )that I think the other guys get overlooked . Interestingly , though Hendrix is the better know, possibly greater, artist, I don't see him as all that influential due to the fact he was so unique . Cream had a huge and direct influence on many of the bands of the day ( especially the kind of bands a lot of us here on the forum like ).
Love 'em both .
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William Tell |
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April 28, 2010 02:48:15pm |
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Re: Attn. WT Cream Request |
For me, it's open and shut: CREAM. But, that is entirely due to JB & GB. I view that they added so much more depth to them, though I love(d) the two (Redding and...?) too.
Jimi is in a class by himself, and I have no problem saying he's "tops" (EC is NOT key to CREAM, for me, though I rank him very highly). I love WindCMary, HJoe, those sorts--and the other "showy" guitar tunes are great, but to me, though everyone else said there was a "big diff" for them tween CREAM and the DEAD, for me, listening to most of their jams is similar to my 68 jams (duh--I know they ARE diff, but you get the idea? Energy! Something new and different? etc).
So, I have had various Jimi phases, BUT nothing tops how much I can listen to the CREAM, except the DEAD...they are clearly the two I obsess about, and nobody comes close.
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April 28, 2010 04:12:56pm |
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In short: Hendrix is God.
Here's an essay on Hendrix & the Dead:
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=210202 A recent article in Rolling Stone mentioned that the "Family" is now putting together another multi-disc Hendrix anthology of outtakes, which to me is fantastic news. Considering all the stuff in the Hendrix vaults, their release rate is VERY slow. (They're apparently also doing yet another documentary, which could be good too.)
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snori |
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April 29, 2010 07:50:41am |
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Thanks for posting this LIA - checking out the links will keep me from doing too much work this morning. I recently got the three night run from Winterland in Oct '68 and it's renewed my enthusiasm for the Experience. Plus some later studio work has emerged which show some subtler, beautiful elements emerging in his playing that, sadly, we never saw come to fruition.
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