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Poster: Dave Snottearman Date: Apr 24, 2024 7:19am
Forum: general Subject: IA Double Standard – US vs. Foreign Members?


A foreign-based member of Internet Archive uploads movies and TV shows. None are taken down. The account remains active as new uploads are appearing. Upload examples:
https://archive.org/details/greys-anatomy-season-01-ta015
https://archive.org/details/greys-anatomy-season-02-ta015
https://archive.org/details/iron-man-2008-ta015

A US-based member posts the EXACT same files a few days later. They’re quickly taken down (with no notification). A couple of days later the account is locked (with no notification). Those exact same file uploads are posted immediately below.
https://archive.org/details/ga-s-01-e-01-ahdn
https://archive.org/details/ga-s02
https://archive.org/details/im-2008_202404

WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD? That is, why are foreign-based members treated better than those from the US?

By the way, we don’t need an admin saying, “if you don’t like it go somewhere else.” Unprofessional comments seem unworthy of Archive and its goals.

For the record, this member does donate, and has considered including Archive in estate planning.

This long-time member would like to hear from someone in senior management at Archive, i.e., US-based members deserve an explanation.

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Poster: Jeff Kaplan Date: Apr 24, 2024 7:47pm
Forum: general Subject: Re: IA Double Standard – US vs. Foreign Members?

if you see items you do not think should be on the site you are welcome to contact us at info@archive.org with the information.

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Poster: Prince-Of-Dorkness Date: Apr 25, 2024 3:45am
Forum: general Subject: Re: IA Double Standard – US vs. Foreign Members?

I'd still appreciate an answer to the original question.. specifically, why does Archive delete some content (and then lock the accounts) yet other flagrant content is ignored (as per the examples given), and those accounts are left intact?

By the way, that original account is still locked. Given the lack of notification and double standard, why not do the right thing and unlock the account without the need for so the member to jump through hoops, and wait so, so long for processing? That is, why not do the right by the member?

To state the obvious, we're not lawyers... if we see someone else posting copyrighted content (like on Popcorn, which has an Archive link of some sort) we assume it's OK to post the same content albeit in a different form (such as file type or definition). Copyright law isn't as simple as some pontificators make it out to be. We also mustn't forget that copyright law is sorely in need of updating to meet the needs of the 21st century.

Thank you in advance for doing right by members.



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Poster: PD_Pol Date: Apr 24, 2024 4:51pm
Forum: general Subject: Re: IA Double Standard – US vs. Foreign Members?

You may need to re-post your confusing post. I think of a US-based log-in as being foreign. When posting, please use the actual name of the county of origin to reduce the possibility of error.

I am also surprised to see your comment about the admins comment. Please post a link to the posting where the admin said “if you don’t like it go somewhere else.” Bad grammar is never proper.

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Poster: Dave Snottearman Date: Apr 25, 2024 3:34am
Forum: general Subject: Re: IA Double Standard – US vs. Foreign Members?

Thanks for posting. Given that Archive.org has been stated as being US-based, I assumed "foreign" would mean non-US countries. You're correct in that being more specific was needed because I'm the type who'll add "USA" to my address or location when sending an email or message to a non-US recipient. After all, I did correspond with foreign businesses for many years in the aviation/aero field (i.e., ah gotta li'l bit o' empathy).

As far as the admin's comment, that was a few years ago, and I haven't the filing system to retrieve such a link. That post may still be here, though, many, many pages down. If only I had the time to search.

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Poster: Dave Snottearman Date: Apr 24, 2024 3:29pm
Forum: general Subject: Popcorn Project has same movie posted >1 year

As a follow-up, the Popcorn Project has had the deleted movie (Iron Man #1) posted multiple times, one going back over a year. Again, an apparent double standard. Links below are to 4 postings of this movie on Popcorn Project. Reminder, the Popcorn Project's domain name is identified as being owned by Archive.org, per Whois.com.

https://archive.org/details/Popcornarchive-ironMan
https://archive.org/details/Popcornarchive-ironMan2008_0px78
https://archive.org/details/Popcornarchive-ironMan2008_0px78
https://archive.org/details/Popcornarchive-ironMan2008_v3xd9

If foreign members and the Popcorn Project are allowed to post this movie, then why was it deleted from the link below, and the associated account seemingly locked because of it? Why the double standard? Please explain the double standard. Thank you in advance for showing some professionalism here.

https://archive.org/details/iron-man-2008-ta015

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Poster: Prince-Of-Dorkness Date: Apr 25, 2024 10:17am
Forum: general Subject: Popcorn Project is ½ copyrighted stuff – anybody care at IA?

Popcorn Project looks like its ½ copyrighted stuff. Does anyone at IA care? If yes, remember what that guy from Missouri used to say.

If you can't even be consistent with Terms enforcement vis-à-vis deleting supposedly copyrighted files, then maybe it's time to:
●rewrite your legalese Terms,
●rethink your draconian Terms enforcement,
●both.

The IA lawyers probably need something to do.