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Subject: Happy Barton Hall Day!
What else is there to say on this May 8th?
And I've just received news that today is officially Grateful Dead Day in Ithaca, with Cornell students celebrating by playing this show all over campus!
Subject: Hard to Pick
Seems hard to pick an overall favorite show. It's like asking someone which of their children is their favorite.
And yet, I can certainly pick a favorite show--this one.
Nugs.net has a free download of the show under the free stash page.
Awesome sound quality.
Subject: Are soundboard mixes still downloadable?
I once downloaded a great mix from this site of this legendary show. But I've moved twice since and may have lost half of it in a divorce. So I tried downloading this show recently and find the recordings not nearly as full as before. I do remember that the original download was a mix of the soundboard with some audience recording mixed in. But I can't seem to find mixes like that now? I can only seem to find audience recordings to download and soundboard files to stream, whereas previously I could download them also?
Funny thing also, I went to Cornell at the time and saw this show. First Dead show ever! I was way impressed with how the dead managed to make Barton Hall, which had notoriously bad sound (big volume, lots of echo), actually sound okay. They did this by hoisting the speakers up halfway up to the ceiling, so they were projecting down the middle. It made it sound great most everywhere. Very clever I thought, since I hadn't seen any other band do this in Barton Hall.
Anyways, any help in finding soundboard recordings or mixes of them would be great!
Apostrophe Now -
Subject: Oh Great Ones .. ..
A real TANxS to minoxman fer fottie, en this archive is so much better than brill.
Whatever's your ppoison, ENjoY, ye b a lng tme gone, and hope (most's) all well in your part of the world.
groetjes,gracias y Slan,
Subject: Check out my photo from this epic show!
I was one of the lucky few who attended this legendary show. I have to say, at the time, while it was obviously a great show and a wonderful experience, it didn't seem vastly better than the other outstanding shows of 1977 (like the Palladium show I saw a week earlier, or Englishtown a few months later)... Of course, a few years later I wore out a reel-to-reel tape listening to this show!
This was also the only general-admission show where I actually worked my way right up to the front and managed to take some pictures. I shot the best one during the slow vocals on St. Stephen... Since this show seems to be very under-documented visually, I thought I'd put up the link for everybody's enjoyment:
It's too bad that my college roommate's head takes up so much room between Bobby and Donna, but hey, it's still a great shot! Dig it!
(Technical info: Shot on 35mm Tri-X with a Petri Color 35, exposed at 1/15th at f/2.8, and developed in D-76. I just made a new 8x10 print from the negative about four years ago and scanned it, probably at 200dpi, and made minor adjustments for contrast/brightness and retouched out some dust.
Aside regarding archival original media: I seriously doubt that anybody will be able to read anything off of a digi-cam memory card after 30+ years, whereas this negative was in perfect usable condition! I've got nothing against digital imaging, but old-school film photography is still MAGIC!)
It was 35 years ago today!
Could possibly be the best version of They Love Each Other I've ever heard!
efriquen monsoon -
Subject: if yer still not sure...
take a car ride with just the first set. I can argue for all kinds of viewpoints regarding the Dead, but of this I am sure: lots of people got very turned on to the band in upstate NY in 1977. By then the Dead needed no help regarding their ability to blow minds, but really, if you want to understand how the scene got SO big in the 80s, I think it was the true personal impact for many and subsequent reputation among thousands of shows like this. Just astounding visions and words come to life (magic?), BIG dynamics, a living thing right there in your head, on the tape, in the air for years, all of our lives. Special.
Subject: Who am I to say?
Critics should be to music what ornithology is to birds.
My only observation is that there is certainly something about this band that we are all still hard-pressed to define. Whether you lived it or not.
And at age 53, I will miss them until the end of my days.
I have to say that the 10min jam in Dancing In The Streets was the best part jam of the night. Seriously. Jerry's solo was non-stop and hands down one of absolute best. Weir's funky rythm was so enjoyable to listen to, and phil lesh was in tip top form that night. Goes without saying that phil's playing this night was more amazing that usual.Mickey and bill are whoopin ass with killer fills and dead on timing in every song.
Obviously a great show. as of now it is my favorite dead show. i do believe this is their best show, at lease the best show i've heard so far.
Aussie Dead Head -
Subject: Special Place In All Our Hearts
I live in Australia and am 23 years old. Sadly, I never got to see the Grateful Dead. I got on the bus back in 2003 and it has been growing into an insane trip with each passing year.
When I downloaded this show from WinMX (remember?) I did not know of this shows status of being one of the best, I just wanted more Dead. I remember having this show across three cds. The famous Betty Board with the missing intro. I remember walking home and always having the second cd in my 'discman' The second cd was from Mama Tried all the way till the end of the Scarlet-Fire. I loved Mama Tried but would usually skip through Row Jimmy because I could not wait for the Dancing In The Sreets. Loved Bob's 'Take A Step Back' it always made me smile. Walking home from school with the sun in my face, care-free 16-17 year old and listening to this music....I felt so honoured. It must be a gift from God.
I would joke around sometimes and speak "deadhead" language to some other kids at school. They have never even heard of the band before. Imagine their faces when I would press pause at lunch time and tell them the band was playing Scarlett into Fire! hahahaha. I did not bother trying to get people on the bus. I was having a difficult time getting people to like the catchy songs of the Beatles, Rolling Stones, WHO etc I kept the Grateful Dead all to myself.
Now I sit here listening to this show....on my iPod, almost midnight, 2010. I am always taken back to those special care-free days of my last two years of highschool, which I loved. Although I was not at this show, Atleast I have a special place this show takes me to. I am sure everyone here has one.
I would like to hear stories from the rest of you. We all know the music is great. Almost pointless for a review.
Yea, there are many to compare to, and I admit Dick's Pick 18 is up there, but there is something surreal about Cornell Scarlet>Fire that is, well, magical. It takes you away...It just does. I wish I had been there...
Every time this dancin' comes on in my car, I almost get in an accident. I'm dancin' at the wheel. When I hear shit THAT good, I'm powerless.
Subject: OH YEAH!!!
Yeah, I was there...what a year '77. There are so many shows that are a 'must have'. If this was on vinyl, it would have melted long ago...thai sticks, maybe a blotter or sunshine barrel with some Jack or Jose to wash em down....pass that pipe...don't bogart that joint, my friend---pass it over to me.
Subject: Long time hippie was there and it was magic
I am a long time hippie and I was at this show and can remember it like it was yesterday. all i can say is that the magic was present in spades-this is what Mickey Hart meant when he said "we aren't in the music business, we are in the transportation business. This show transported anyone who was there to a much higher place that we still haven't come down from. fortunately for those who weren't there this tape ( and the other copies) all do the same. Close your eyes, put this on and you will liftoff! I did a number of shows on the spring tour of 1977 and everything about this-my friends in Ithaca, the waterfalls, the thai stick and acid,Cornell University, Barton Hall in its Gothic splendor, the snowfall after walking out of the show-was just incredible. there was no need to speak afterward, we all knew we had just experienced one of the high points of our lives. Enjoy!
Subject: the first time is always the best
and it was the best that I saw. I always thought it was because my first show, but was not shocked to discover that many Dead scholars view this as the crest of the best wave, that highwater mark, that if you squint, you can still see...
Those who claim this show to be overrated are trying to be cool or something. This show captures the essence of 77 Dead. The second set in particular is anthemic in nature with the scarlet>Fire>Estimated jet engine start. I will never tire of this show.
Subject: Walk me out...
one of my favorite shows i have ever heard.
all time favorite version of Morning Dew for sure.
silver hawk -
Subject: Best tape in the box
I have seen 149 shows between 89 and 95 and I aint heard no show this pristine and with such a wide spectrum of high and low tone qualitys. I still have my 14 year old anolog tape whith a fell0w deadheads enthusiastic hand writing on it. I cherish this ratty 0ld tape ,and all the great memmories that go with it . Silver hawk
Subject: dancin in the streets
jerry absolutely shreds this solo and bursts into a new universe at 8:28-8:35
Subject: This is the best overall
After listening to all four of these recordings very carefully while watching the sound on a Spectrum Analyzer my vote would go to this recording as overall best for 2 reasons:
1) Best bass capture and overall balance between all instruments and instruments vs. vocals.
2) Least clipping/over-saturation.
That said, the overall sound levels are a bit lower than the other three recordings on this version, and the dynamic range *appears* narrower - but this is likely the use of a more aggressive Dolby B circuit. On playback with a Dolby B unit with a decent 32-bit DSP all four recordings "blossom" very satisfactorily.
All four recordings are, however, Grade AAA, 5-star, despite slight flaws and one small error in two of them.
I have the "Moore-Cribbs" version on my personal iPod because I like the extra guitar and piano presence on that recording; but usually play the "Shure57-Stevenson" version on my stereo (but you could hurt yourself with this version using ear buds IMHO).
One last note, the "Shure57-Stevenson" recording is the best *ever* of Jerry's guitar, bar none, and every fan will want this recording in their collection!
These four recordings are definitely among the best of all time. Thanks to the Tapers and to archive.org for making all this possible.
Subject: Check out Jeff Stevenson's recording, too.
This is a great show, and this is a great recording....but....before you sink your teeth into this, check out Jeff Stevenson's recording. Even though it's AUD and far fewer d/, I think it's better. The energy (and sound) on that one is amazing and it deserves to be the top d/l for this date, in my opinion. The SBDs sound just a touch anemic when I stack it up next to that one.
Subject: Great, But Not the Best
The three shows that I caught on this tour, 4/23, this, and 5/28 were of equal value to me in tuning in to this wondrous,latest phase of the band's development. What this show lacks for me is a heavyweight, e. g. The Other One or Terrapin, in the second set. Also, for those of us who sat through James Taylor during Spring Concert on 5/2/70, while one could almost hear the thunder coming up the road from nearby Binghamton, this was a long time coming to Ithaca.
Subject: ok, look.....
i've been listening to GD for decades and i'm totally aware that many people feel it's not fair to call this the best show ever. a valid point, as there are plenty out there. since so much has already been said about this show however (and it IS an amazing show) i have just one point to make here: the reviewer below who claims that the 9/13/93 Scarlet>Fire is better than this one needs to wake up. That statement is beyond ridiculous.
This overrated POS sodboard is still available at nugs
Subject: top 10 shows ever!
This was my 2nd show and one of my favorites all time. I must say the late 70's and early 80's is for me the peak of the Dead years. I love Keith and his piano with the band... This is also about the time Donna's singing started going downhill but she is alright in this show. (it's interesting to note that Jerry much preferred to play along with an organ sound as it gave him more "sonic space to create his magic, but I have to say the piano riffs sound so much better to me!)I remember standing to side of stage not more than 10 feet away from Keith - can you believe this was general admission? I never thought Brent and Vince contributed as much to the sound. Jerry's voice is still quite strong in this era, and for me the later years 80's and 90's were hit or miss vocally. The opening intro to St Stephen is beautiful - it never seemed the same when the Dead jammed into St. Stephen. The weather was amazing that night; I remember the afternoon of the show it was around 60 degrees and sunny. By the start of the show it was 40 degrees and sarting to rain. By the end of the show it was snowing! I will never forget all the deadheads in t-shirts, shorts and sandals huddled everywhere around Cornell trying to stay warm. I think a lot of kids just showed up with shorts and t-shirts and didn't think about the weather. The next day I returned to 14 inches of snow in Ct! When I meet younger deadheads these days they all are amazed to talk to someone who was there. And yes, Jerry did actually say something during the show! At the time it wasn't audible but it seems like he said "thanks Mom? "One of the few rare times I remember Jerry speaking at a show - a sure sign he was enjoying himself. I remeber wondering about the song Fire and no one knew anything anbout the song - we had to wait a year for the record to come out.
Subject: Terrible quality..
compared to the stream that's on archive, this copy's quality is god awful. Can't even hear phil banging out the basslines.
Where can I download a copy of the show that sounds like this: http://www.archive.org/details/gd77-05-08.matrix.dan.26856.sbeok.flacf
im new to the archives and i have been downloading usually single songs from soundboard shows but know when i try to download anything, firefox tells me it cannot find the song file. is there something i can do to fix this?
yes, i dont really know shit about computers but i love the dead so any help would be great
Subject: NOODLING & SLIDE PLAYING.
SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THEY PLAY THIS GIG FAIRLY
SAFE TOUGH AND STLL GOT SOME REUNION DICIPLINE.
LIKE SLOWER THAN 76,BUT FASTER THAN 78.
CANT REALY JUDGE ENERGY LEVEL TOO POOR SOUND
QUALITY FOR THAT, ALL TOP AND NO BOTTOM.
TO MUCH ROOM AS WELL. THE SLIDE SOLOS INTERESTING
AS USUAL LIKE CANT HIT A GOOD NOTE JUST HIT EM ALL. THE CONTRAST WOULD BE JERRY PLAYIN STEELGUITAR WICH HE MANAGED QUITE WELL I THINK.
SO NOT THAT BIG DEAL TO ME I STICK TO THE MIDDLE.
Chris U. -
Always was, always will be.
Ten million people for whom this was the first decent "modern" sounding board tape they ever heard can be wrong.
This show is too noodly, with extra cheese.
There, I said it.
Subject: Ithaca is Gorges!
Sorry I was not there to witness in person....Anyways, I remember the first time I heard this tape and it was the second set first. Phil's bombastic's would shake the foundations of our house. The first download from the archive I looked for was this show when I finally bucked up for internet access.
I can't say it was the best I ever heard? My first show I went to was probabally the best but who is to really say? Perception is tied to memories of that moment of music and phriends as much as the quality of performance.
This is amazing I have been trying to find this version of "deal" that I heard when I was still in high school. My buddy actually left it in my car one day and he didn't want it back because it was a burnt-cd. He told me how the Grateful Dead always allowed people to record their shows for free so you could always download any of the shows they played in.
No wonder I ended up liking the Dead so much... there was something magical about this show....
Subject: this was the best tape!
you know it, we all had this one and loved it.
cornell '77 with the great scarlet fire.
doesn;t compare to the 73 shows, but not too shabby.
Subject: Grateful Dead Day
As of May 8, 2006, the beautiful college town of Ithaca, NY declared this day "The First Annual Grateful Dead Day". In honor of the incredible celebration the tribute band, Dark Star Orchestra played this exact same show, word for word, lick for lick to perfection. Recently graduating from Ithaca College, this whole show changed my life on how I view music and life is my all-time favorite GD concert to listen to of all time.
Subject: Barton Hall – 77
So many reviewers (in Matrix version reviews) wrote that it’s the best show ever… I can’t agree with them, they overrated this concert, though it’s a 5-stars show. The first set would have been fantastic if it were not for these long tunings between songs. “TLEO”, “Jack Straw”, “Deal”, “Mama Tried” and especially “Brown-Eyed Women” are great. This “BEW” differs a lot form those, played in 73-74, and I like its jazzy, mellow sound. Also I like the way Jerry sang the third line of the chorus.
“Lazy Lightning>Supplication” was much better in 1976. I would like to abstain from commenting “S>F”, because I can’t say, whether it’s the best version ever or not (I like 1993/9/13 version more or “Closing Winterland” version). It has some special moments, and great transition though.
The latter part of the second set is incredible. “Stephen>NFA>Stephen”. Never heard better intro, and development of the melody before the first verse is wonderful. Transition to NFA is quite a surprise and jamming in the middle before returning to the main theme and then “Stephen” is beyond description! But I can’t understand one thing: what these two songs have in common to be united? And the show’s peak – “Morning Dew”. There were so many great “Dews” that it’s almost impossible to determine the best one. However, I shall say that Cornell’s version is very special
was16myfirst show -
Subject: it alright
sounds like they are trying to make a living. A very good sound. Not yet superstars, sounds almost cave like, fireside jam. Like they always sound. Good show. quality could be better, but it was 77' I
sprouting wings -
wow i just discovered this archive- and after recently losing most of my cd collection this is a lifesaver. i noticed a lot of the good shows on here are stream only. and ive never been known for my techno skills but that means i cant burn them on disk right? is anyone who has hard copies interested in burning/trading cds the good old fashioned way or any tips on how to get certain ones online? a few favorites i want to own again- 5-7-77, 5-17-77 ..that whole may run is incredible ..and any more...
thank you boys for bringing joy into my heart!
Subject: "qedbob", you don't have to embelish.
When "qedbob" took a step back I took a step forward.There I was on the front rail! Yeah that's right.Right smack dab in front of Jerry! WOW! That's when Jer leaned down and asked me,"What should we play?" I paused for a moment and it came to me.I replied Scarlet Fire would be sweet! Jer concurred. Oh yeah, did I mention that I was surrounded by wet wriggling babes that couldnt keep their hands off of me.That show was one of countless epic gigs that I personally inspired.I was given the game ball from the band at the post show press conference.I could not accept it and I gave it to "qedbob".Hey Qedbob do you freakin remember the snow on the ground after the show? unbelievable.
something magical was def in the air that night...the boys hit evrey note in evrey song just about perfect:)
Subject: Happy 30th to an old friend
I have loved this show from the fist time I heard it and after all these years its still getting better. We all know how good it is so Ill leave the details out and you can fill in the blanks for yerselves. Enjoy the good old gr8fuldead and check out the Dew its sick.
Subject: 30 years later- still grateful
i am joining this venue to wax about this killer concert- which i saw almost 30 years ago. i was 20 years old, had loved the dead for 2 years, but never had a chance to see them live until this fateful, blessed day. continued to see the dead (50 times??) through the 90's but this was always my favorite- experienced standing only 2 people removed from the stage, equidistant from the pa system on my left and jerry on my right-- both perhaps 15 feet away. and when bobby (?) asked everyone to take a step back (and another-- and another) because of the bug eyed people up front--- well, i was one of them but i was going nowhere but forward. i was in heaven, in the presence of god, and i only wanted to get closer!
i mostly remember the BEAUTIFUL music, fire>scarlet, st. stephen, morning dew- drinking in the beauty and energy, realizing that there truly was nothing like a dead concert, and after the show passing by the sound board and thinking how all the music i just heard went through it (and am so thankful now for the crystalline recording of this inspired performance that i can now, and do, relive regularly)- and walking out into the cold- well- just snow!! (it was a warm may upstate evening going in) and getting marooned overnight in the car with friends after driving off the side of the country road, waiting for the morning sun to show us the way back to buffalo, where i was then going to school.
playing with the idea of seeing dso in ithaca for the 30th anniversary, but in some ways the pure experience lives most clearly in my mind and whenever i play it on cd or ipod walking in central park or driving in the car.
Subject: BIG spring '77
crazy great show from one of the best runs in history! another great one from this run is 5/22/77 Pembroke Pines...aka DP 3
I live just outside of Ithaca and it snowed like crazy that night. We got five inches at my place.
Subject: cold snow
what no one mentions is that, on may 8, upon exiting barton hall, we were met with a huge snow storm that lasted the next day. and may 77 sure got hotter from there. check out DP29 for the best of that (best) month
i also remember seeing steve mayzner there, so this one is special.
Over 2 hrs of nothing but goosebumps. Long thrive the Archive :-)
Subject: row jimmy row you b*****d
This my favourite jimmy, absolutley brilliant!!!
This is a wonderful recording, very easy to put in the car deck and not change ....for a week!
I think this is one of those cases when the aud is better than the sbd,imo. It has alot of range and everyone "is in the mix".
The band were on this night and the double drummer shuffle style was nailed down perfectly.
Nobody could tickle the ivories like kieth, infact i don't listen to much post kieth stuff,
too much organ "fill".
Anyhoo, highly recommended both for sound and band performance.
Subject: Really glad I found this site
I had this tape back in my college days doing sound (a gig that got me the pleasure of doing a show with Mickey, Baba and Ramrod) and must have played it to death. When someone refers to Jerry as a "monster" they are referring to the supernatural effort that he was able to conjure on this version of Dew. Uncle Bobo was right. They were the only ones who did what they did. My sincerest appreciation to whoever was responsible for posting these files. Rock on!
Subject: Three point seven five stars - Tepid Scarlet Fire???
How anyone could possibly say this Scarlet Fire is average is beyond me. That is one I have never heard. I don't know if it is the best SF ever, but it is the iconic standard by which all SF's before and after are measured. The interlude is possibly the best example of the pure, smooth beauty in transition that made this band so special. Aside from Jerry being in perfect form, listen to Bob and Phil in the two minutes before Jerry sings the first verse of Fire. The only question I can ask about this show is "Were they ever better?" Listening to it as I write this review, I have to conclude that the person who wrote that review is just messing with us, sarcastically trying to provoke a response with wild, crazy rambling.
Subject: Thanks Mom
I will have to listen again to see...either way it was funny.
Subject: Thanks, Mom
I always thought the "Thanks, Mom" was Phil.
dead phish -
Subject: Brown Eyed Women
Best brown eyed women and Minglewood blues i have ever heard
One of the best shows ive ever heard.
Subject: Barton in the Snow
My first try at this was unsuccessful - thanks archive-- let it be knownto non-heads wanting to dub this tape --
it is like gold...
coveted by the poor
taken for granted by the rich
--- it snowed during this show?
-- in May?
thank you b cantor
there is NOTHING like a gratfuldead show
Subject: Three point seven five stars.
There's no denying that this show is special.
The first set is pure magic--all the way through. I always hated Minglewood Blues until I listened to this show--now that's changed. This Row Jimmy is really a classic. The Morning Dew at the end of set 2 is also outstanding.
It's only that I really consider myself a Scarlet->Fire kind of guy, and this Scarlet->Fire just strikes me as a really average, tepid rendition. Doesn't hold a candle to Dick's Picks 18 or even 84-10-30 on this archive. I like to have only really hot Fires in my collection and this one...eh.
Subject: one for the vault!!!!!
This show was sick shit!!!! Used to have it on cassette back in the day. Have'nt heard it in a while, glad to have it back. Quality is great. Thank you archive...
I was fortunate enough to have seen the Dead, (or unfortunate to have only seen them), 58 times. My wife once asked me if there were any shows I regreted. To which I replied "I ONLY REGRET THE ONES I DIDN'T SEE" THIS ONE I REGRET DEEPLY! Many thanks for a great recording of an outstanding show.
Subject: smokin show, good quality AUD
even donna is good
Years ago I got this show on tape and I could not stop smiling for a week. There are lots of great shows out there, but this one is magic. Is it the best ever? Don't know, haven't heard them all. But it makes me smile and dance every time I play it. The boys were peaking this night--a special time in a special place. Enjoy it.
Subject: as i've heard
i've heard that this is arguably the best dead show. When my friend followed them for a summer, he saw this show and said it was the best dead show he had SEEN (not just listened to), and he has seen about 60 shows of theirs.
Lesh is More -
Subject: Phil in the Blank
Hands down the best show of the era and certainly my favorite of all time. The Scarlet>Fire is second to none. I think Phil turned all the knobs to 11 on this one.
Subject: my first review and show
this was the first show i ever saw. i was pretty buzed and the one thing i remembered was trying to find a copy of Fire On The Moutain on a album after the show, wasnt recorded as of yet. its a shame i was so buzzed, because it seems like a imissed a hell of show. Im grateful for this sight because it allowed me to relive my days of old. what a pleasure to hear some of the great sounds the Dead have put out over and over again. It was a great show and thanx again for this archive.
Subject: un grand merci ! big thank you !
merci, je ne suis pas un specialiste mais j'ai ce concert en tete depuis 20 ans et je l'ai retrouv merci ceux qui le font vivre ! Ric de Paris (France)
Mohawk Nation -
Subject: Daddy Took the Car Keys Away
Said the wrong thing to my old man the afternoon of 5/8/77 and he said I couldn't go to the show. Being only 17 at the time, I had to go along with it. Didn't realize I would miss arguably the best Dead show ever (and would have been my first). My sister, her boyfriend and about a dozen friends went without me and still talk about it. Oh, well.....
This is a great show and although I miss the soundboards, I love a great AUD source, and this is outstanding.
Subject: Pure Magic
Words don't do this show justice.
Subject: Wiping drool from keyboard
It's hard to add anything to what has already been said, but I feel like I have to say...ahhhhhhhhhhh. Ok, that's it. This definately is one of those shows you can drop on someone if you want to hook up on the Dead. The Scarlett to Fire is so smooth, it is almost like a dj mixing two records together- of course a dj couldn't pull it off like that. These guys were so ahead of their time.
Subject: Excellent Recording.
Sometimes I really lament the addition of Donna Jean howling in the background and really lament it when she is in the foreground.
Subject: Well, here's a question
Much has been made of this show. And the second set is definitely stronger than the first. But in all that's written about this fame dnight, I never see anyone touch on the fact that the start ofteh jam into Fire is backward. It sounds like Keith (whose playing I typically love) has the chords reversed and it takes some concerted pushing by Jerry to turn it back around. Anyway, everyone should study this show because it's become such a widely disseminated artifact that it's now a cultural document.
Subject: woo = woo
This is exactly why I bought a computer. At LAST, there is a crispy crystal aud version of this (drool) show within my GRASP!
...wonder what I'm a'gonna listen to while looking for that lighter...
Jerry Christmas and Happy New Weir, y'all.
Subject: nice aud of a classic
I just wrote a little review and it got erased. awesome. basically, we all know about the show, this recording sounds quite good. Basically sounds like a dull version of the sbd, but with crowd reactions, a nice touch. I've only listened to the scarlet-fire so far though. Only real problem with the recording is it's a little left-heavy.
Here's some uplifting news considering the whole debacle...does anyone know any more about this?
one can only hope...
Subject: here's the place to go sign a petition
for everyone who is like myself and doesn't understand the shift in the band's mentality, and how they could take away a website that embodies the sharing of music so special it changed our lives, here's a website you can sign a petition
the music will always be near and dear to my heart, but i know someone at Grateful Dead Merchandising well, and this decision is nothing more than people trying to figure out how to make an additional dollar. it's just sad, and I will probably not patronize GDM again. 5 stars forever to the music
Subject: too good to be true
alas, business prevails. I guess GD profits were down. I've spent a lot of money on the GD in the past. To be prefectly honest, I have been very disappointed by the GD several times and never complained. I believe this move is a sign that some of the band members have now officially lost their minds. I don't know for sure, but having a liver transplant tends to spawn some mental issues that might cause suspect decision making.
Subject: They forgot 11-1-79 & 5-15-70 sbds
Get them while you still can!!!!
Plus 6-8-74. Still has 2nd set sbd....
Subject: End of an era, are a retrench
These shows are not downloadable any more as of today, November 22, 2005. Darn!
Half Man Half Amazing -
Subject: THE BEST!
This is my favorite Dead show for sure! Any time I have a road trip, this concert fuels me up as I'm truckin' down the highway. Not much else to say that hasn't already been said!
Half Man Half Amazing -
Subject: THE BEST!
This is my favorite Dead show for sure! Any time I have a road trip, this concert fuels me up as I'm truckin' down the highway. Not much else to say that hasn't already been said!
Subject: In Tune
all has been said about this show and others of 77, but i dont hear people mention that Donna is "IN TUNE" how many times have you listened to show and they just hurt when shes out of tune. in this day and age of "AutoTune" singers that lip sync its fresh everytime to have a perfect donna!! And the keys of this era Phat. peace and love in listening, Just another audio geek.
Subject: oh calm down already
In a year where the Dead tore it up more nights than not, this show has always been slightly overrated to me. Other than the definitive Dancin', the 1st set was average. The 2nd set has its peaks and I can't downplay the Scarlet>Fire or the Morning Dew, but the highlight to me was always the hot hot hot NFA. The next night in Buffalo has the better 1st set. There are many other nights from '77 that match up very well with this one -- 3/19, 5/19,10/29,11/4 and 12/27 to name a few.
Subject: Smokin show and venue
On this night the Grateful Dead were ALL on top of their jamZ! I think that this is the best show I have ever heard...without a doubt. The acoustics in that place were awesome as well. I really never get tired of listening to this show. If you have never heard it, it is definitely worth the download. GO GET IT NOW!!!!
P.S. Lazy Lightning/Supplication...
Is this the original here or is it the spliced in version?
Subject: HIGHly recomenDEAD!
as always a clasic show..probably the most talked about show. all tracks are outstanding. the sound quatlity is excellent. pass this show on to any live music enthusiast. cheers
Subject: One of the truly special shows
On the anniversary of one of the all-timers, this show is held so dear by so many deadheads that it is one of the true links for newbie to old-timer (as someone notes below). It has almost invariably been one of the first tapes of a show that we first had our minds blown by and one of the first tapes that we literally wore out...most of us know the Betty Board with the Minglewood fade in and the chunk missing (Ouch!) from Lazy Lightning>Supplication which otherwise is of great quality. My highest recommendation is to listen regularly to the Rob Eaton Betty Board with the Audience splice for those two glitches, but there is something very special about an excellent audience tape (CD). Obnoxious fan comments and offbeat clapping are generally made up for by the ambiance and crowd response, making one feel even more a part of the original experience. This is an excellent audience with a minimum of negative audience intrusion.
As for the show itself, there is little that can be added to the many previous reviews, except, perhaps, to note the sometimes unheralded gems of the first set. Everyone knows how otherworldly the second set is and of course the Dancin' from set one is held as perhaps the finest version around. But depsite a somewhat disappointing Minglewood, almost every version of songs from set one could be thought of as "best" versions. In particular my favorites are Loser, TLEO, Jack Straw (for its fluidity and perfect groove, how often do you think of this song for its groove?!), BE Women (again for the ease and fluidity of Jerry's playing and the rest of the band not getting in the way), Row Jimmy (some of Jer's best slide work ever!), and Dancin' (finding the non-stop, eternal groove).
The second set has the bonus of "everybody's favorite fun game Take-A-Step-Back". And beside the mundane Estimated, the set is perfectly, ineffibly transcendant. This show can certainly hold its own against the great shows that are on the tip of the tongue for so many deadheads. 2/13/70, 8/27/72 and 5/8/77 may be the most talked about shows of all time. And that is not to say that they are the "best" shows per se, because grading is always going to be subjective, but they definitely have whatever qualities it takes to be mentioned with the best! And IMO it is just fun to listen and then attempt to explain what it is that made the experience so miraculous...enjoy!
Subject: Cornell 5/8/77
Hi. This is the best show ever performed by anyone in the history of music. There has been nothing prior or since that has achieved the epiphanic level of being, the intensity of experience of pure spiritual ecstasy, the highest level of Nirvana, as has been accomplished here. Ithaca is The Vehicle to a Truly Transcendant Level of Consciousness. Peace.
ok.... so I am 20 years old... I started listening to the dead a little over one year ago! hah! boy was I a sheltered child...
I went to Bonnaroo 2004, and passed out after 2 days of heat and drugs, and the ice storm knocked me out and I missed what would have been a fairly good introduction to the dead... Later that summer in late July I would finally witness the magic of the dead at blossom music center with warren haynes. a killer show and a great way to get me started... now back to my review.... i've been searching this archive for over 6 months now looking for the holy grail, and I got this show off of Soulseek, not the archive. But regardless of where you get it, it's when you sit the hell down and pretend like your there and let the music take you to that place where time doesn't exist and nothing matters but your next breath and the next note jerry is going to hit... this show is my holy grail so far... nothing i've heard compares to it... the st. stephen is insane... i've never heard another example of jerry playing so fast, he RIPS THE FRETBOARD APART! i've been playing guitar for 10 years, since I was 10 years old, and I didn't get serious about it until about one year ago. I knew jerry had it in him to just tear it up but no one ever had this kickass tape. thank the lord for jerry and the boys, and bless the lord for this technology we have!
Subject: Weather Report
My favorite Scarlet>Fire of all time. I never tire of re-listening.....Hey, does anyone else remember snow on the ground after the show?
Subject: Best show ever?
First, Mr. Maizner-we appreciate all the uploads. I downloaded the lossless version as it did not exist on the other upload.However, before anyone does the same, go to the other upload and download each song seperately as they were remastered by Rob Eaton as shorten files.While it is a pain, the quality difference is unbelievable!Again, nothing personal. But a show this good deserves the best quality available. Now, best show ever, out of 2700+ shows-Europe,Pigpen, the pyramids-how can you choose one.However, disc 2 is 70 minutes of some of the finest dead you'll ever hear. I read all the hype first and got a chance to listen to disc 2&3 this past Sunday. Sunny, 70 degrees, jumped in the car as to not be disturbed and so I could turn it up as far as Mr. Bose allows, cracked a cold Fosters oil can and drove 70 miles around the outerbelt in St. Louis grinning my ass off.Dancin-15 minutes of funkafied glory, SF-opening notes my the hairs on my arms and legs stand on end and the base line-pure Philness. Foster-$2.50, cd and case- $1.00, disc 2 from 5/8/77-PRICELESS. You will want to check out the remaster from the night before as well from Boston(my first show!)Very good as well. Having heard these two nights, its obvious the boys were on top of their game. I can't wait to hear the other show from this run.Enjoy!!
Doc Hollywood -
Subject: Best Ever S---> F ?
Who knows, but I gotta say it's at least the greatest in 77, a great year for SFs. Sure 4/23/77 is perhaps the first truly great one, Jerry is so slick and innovative. But the 5/8 is magic...energy is so BIG, almost stadium rock in the Barton barn. Phil up front, rock star, leading the way early on, the SF transition is so intricate, Jer dancing on the fretboard with such fluidity and grace, light raindrops on your spine, building in intensity, then progressively tumbling through time and space, falling apart in delay and envelope distortion...leading to Mickey's carribbean beats as the transition progresses into Fire, a harbinger of Scarlet Fires to come.
Best ever show? I dunno, what is this, the NFL? This show is undeniably fun, from the big Minglewood, to the funkified, all-out Danicin' that is sure to put a smile on your face, or make you jump up and start doing the robot dance, Dead-style. To the Dew, sweet, sweet finale.
It is uniquely positioned as perhaps the one show that we as a family have in common, along with maybe 8/27/72, from the newby who just jumped on the bus in 2005 to those of us who wore out our XL II's of it decades ago. It's place in GD lore was cast long ago, but it is so great to relive the debate through archive online, something I only imagined in my wildest dreams in the years after 1995.
All the best. Being a 77-ologist, if anyone has any FILM whatsoever from that year to get me started, PLEASE email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Hype over this show = WORTH IT....
...disreguard all the nay sayers about this show. regardless of all the "hype" being that this was one of the best sets the Dead ever played, it truly ranks as one of the best. truly. if for nothing else, the solo in "Brown Eyed Women" or the slow, chill pace of "Row Jimmy". the band was in full form for this, take a listen and you'll surely see...
andy b -
Subject: Amazing show
Ive had this show on a cassette for a while and always loved that scarlet>fire. My favorite song though is the st stephen> not fade away > st stephen.
Subject: Some Perspective on the Show
In my fairly substantial experience listening to bootlegs and going to Grateful Dead concerts (65 shows before Jerry kicked it, from '81 - '94), I've found that when Phil (the bassist, for you non-Heads out there) is playing well, the band plays well, and conversely. At Barton Hall, Phil was playing very, very well. This is perhaps nowhere more evident than on the "Scarlet Begonias --> Fire on the Mountain" track, which is in my opinion 25 minutes of pure orgasmic paradise. Sure, they tear it up on Jack Straw, Deal and Brown Eyed Women, but listen to Phil's licks during the opening jam of Scarlet Begonias and you'll see what I mean. The dude is just ripping it and sliding it up and down the frets. I also happen to like the opening of these earlier "Scarlets" better than the way the song later evolved -- here, Keith (keyboardist) plays the opeing riff, while Jerry and Bob sort of follow his lead. In later years, Jerry would usually start Scarlet with a guitar riff, and the keyboards were secondary. In fact, I have no problem saying that the 25 minutes of Scarlet/Fire played at this show is the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone. Take a listen if you don't believe me. The jam between the end of Scarlet and the beginnig of Fire is musically and technically one of their best transitions as well. How they get from Scarlet to Fire is absolutely mesmerizing, and when you hear Jerry pluck the first few chords of the Fire intro, you get chills (or at least this old Deadhead does). It's also a heaping slice of a bygone era, and one best listened to with your eyes closed, the music turned up VERY loud, and picturing yourself at Barton Hall, dancing, all those years ago. While what constitutes the "best show of all time" depends on the song selection, the venue, the audience vibe, and the quality of the boys' playing (among other things), this show certainly was top notch in most of those categories. If you've never really listened to the Dead and have always wondered what all the hype was about, then this show, muscially speaking, is the show that will convert you. Why? Well, I usually divide up Dead tunes into "Beginner's", "Intermediate", "Advanced", and "For Serious Deadheads Only", and this show consists mostly of tunes I'd put in the "Beginner's" and "Intermediate" categories. The boys' playing that night was also very tight (as opposed to some of the looser, more free-flowing concerts that novices tend not to like and which takes some getting used to), and the quality of the sound cannot be beat. It is therefore very accessible to those who are uninitiated. I always tell people that if you've never seen a Grateful Dead concert, you've never really seen a rock concert. By listening to this show, you'll at least get closer to knowing what it was all about, and why this band is so passionately loved by those in the know. Remember: turn Scarlet Begonias up LOUD.
Subject: I have a secret
If you like May of 77, consider checking out April of 78
John B. -
Subject: great show
awesome show. dancin, deal, loser, brown eyed women, so many good songs played so well in one show. this one may be my favorite.
captain jack -
I have been searching for a great recording of this show for a while, and this is certainly it. Best "Row Jimmy" that I've ever heard. Tremendous slide work by Jerry.
The Loser on this show is very underrated.. the best version I have ever heard without much question. Scarlet>Fire is seamless and Not Fade Away is just brimming with life. Bob and Jerry are fantastic on this show. Best ever? Quite possibly.
Subject: Great Dead Download
This show is defininately a great download to add to your collection. The setlist is one of the best and the sound quality is amazing. The Dead really put on a great show here. Dancing in the Streets, Jack Straw, and Row Jimmy are some of the best versions I have ever heard. The jam in Dancing in the Streets might be the best ever. Hats off to Jerry and the rest of the crew.
Subject: Hats off to taper Steve Maizner
Without commenting on show quality (okay the whole damn thing rocks and the scarlet->fire is outta this world), let me just say what a wonderful contribution this excellent AUD recording is to the archive. Thanks to Steve Maizler for capturing it live.
Subject: Also: A great Not Fade Away Jam
If you listen to the extended Not Fade Away jam, which builds in an animalistic frenzy, you can hear where the Dead seem to be building to the St. Stephen reprise (in a waltz time), but back off and return to the NFA jam, and then try again. Its very cool.
Subject: For this amazing show, I actually prefer the Audience recording
I attended this amazing show, my greatest concert experience ever. I have always enjoyed the sound of the this excellent audience recording. The other (soundboard) recording of this show, while very crisp and clear, doesn't convey (to me) the power and intensity of this show as well. Also, the crucial audience interaction, (especially noticable during the jam to Fire on the Mountain), makes this listening experience much more exciting. Sometimes the sound the Dead would get in a field house like this one, or a huge echo-y stadium, would be, it seemed to me, the 'desired' result. It was not something you could get on your home stereo (although this comes close)! Turn it up loud!
THIS is why Neopolitan Ice Cream was invented. Some like Vanilla, some like Strawberry and Some like May, 8 1977. Enjoy your ice cream and be glad that the "different flavors" come in one container (band). I do advise that anyone who reads the reviews before listening to this show take a second or 600 to "cut the rug" to the Dancin' this version certinly tastes good.
Subject: the best fucking show ever
all i got to say is this shit is gold
Still Life -
Subject: Morning Dew
One of my favorite shows ever. I've oly had it on cassette until I downloaded it yesterday. Morning Dew is key. Hands down the best version I've ever heard. Scarlet>Mountain is also out standing.
Subject: This show Rocks!
This show rocks! I love shows from '77 and this is a gem. Worth downloading just for the Scarlet->Fire! Nice sounding too! Thanks to Jonathan Aizen for uploading it!
Subject: My favorite show
The second set is no doubt the best they ever played(except where Donna screws up the lyrics on St.Stephen). I love this show and just wanted to kick in my two cents. Dont think about hype just download this show and enjoy!!!!
Subject: Great show, too much hype
I've been hearing about this legendary show forever....and after finally downloading and repeated listenings, I gotta say--WAY too much hype. It's a GREAT show, no doubt. But "best ever"? Not even close. In fact, for my money, the next night in Buffalo has tons more spark. Like any May '77, great to have--fantastic show. But don't believe the hype.
sid weiss -
Subject: great show
great sound ..great show..perfect
Subject: Yes it is great
But its not the best show ever, the best show ever would be qualitative and there is no way to quantify what would make the best show ever. When i hear a great show i often think that its the best ever, then i hear another one and think the same. Barton hall still stands out as on of my FAVORITES though.
Subject: Simply Phenomenal!
How anyone can say this show is overrated is beyond me. I guess everyone HAS to be different even if they themselves don't believe it for a second.
Simply put, this is the single best live performance I have ever heard from any group at anytime, at any venue. It is absolutely perfect. Even non-Dead fans or one-time Dead haters that I know have been converted thanks to this show. The one comment I get most from those I play it for is that they can't believe it is live. That's how perfect this show is. Get it for yourself and listen, you just won't believe it. THE BEST!
Subject: NOT THE WORST SHOW EVER
This a great show....dont listen to the other guy...hehehe...but it reLLY IS A GREAT SHOW AND AN EXCELLENT jACK sTRAW TOO
Subject: Worst show Evar!!!!
No really! ;)
(but what do I know...)